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[blzalewski]

Pagelines,

 

I am currently building two websites right now. One with Pagelines and one just a generic Wordpress theme

 

Pagelines:

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The Pagelines website is ULTRA MEGA SILLY slow. Why is this? I checked Pingdom and it says DNS/CSS-compile is taking about 3 seconds each. Is Pagelines just slower than other themes because of its power? If so, I gotta switch. Speed is #1 for me. Is there a troubleshooting page I can use to figure out whats going on? I'm on a MediaTemple 1GB VPS with Nginx, php-fpm, apc, varnish, and some other stuff. I hooked it up to CloudFlare and stopped that so I know CloudFlare is not causing this.

 

Is it possible for me to be serving up my home page in under 2 seconds? The DNS lookup/Compiled CSS each take about 3 seconds each and then the rest of my content is served in under 1s according to pingdom tools.

 

Is there a list of requirements for Pagelines (performance wise.. recommended server set up etc.) This is killing me! Thanks all for reading.

 

Regards,

 

Brian

[James B]

Hi Brian

 

Which version of the Framework are you currently on, from 2.3.7 we went back to providing a static style sheet and turned the Less compiling off by default. 

 

I think the link below will help you, a previous client went through the same troubleshooting process with one of our core team, you can read the advise they gave below.

 

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[blzalewski]

Hi, I tried that and it did improve the performance somewhat... but check this out:

 

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The time it takes to load the pagelines compiled css and the time to resolve the dns are both very long while the time to load everything else is very short... it is not like this on my non-pagelines site

 

I want to understand why its doing this so I can figure out where performance tweaks are needed.

[blzalewski]

I was on the latest version yesterday but I think 2.3.8 just came out

[Danny]

I am unable to view what version of PageLines Framework you're using as your pagelines style.css is not reachable? 

 

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Also your compiled CSS isn't the issue, check it out here, it loads instantly - 

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Your site loads fast for me!

[blzalewski]

it loads fast but its slowing down everything else because all of the other content only starts downloading after the compiled CSS is downloaded.

 

I'm now on the latest version of Pagelines

 

Also, is it possible that I don't have any style.css? what is that for? I have no custom CSS rules yet

 

It seems like the compiled css is not being cached - how can I fix this?

[blzalewski]

I added define( 'LESS_FILE_MODE', true );   - does this have to go to the end of wp-config.php or can it go anywhere in the file?

 

My ultimate goal is to get speed that resembles the other website greenwaymaterials.com (that website isn't even set up with w3 total cache yet either)

 

Is this possible with Pagelines? are there significant performance sacrifices?

[Simon_P]

Go to advanced and enable debug.

 

less file mode is active by default now, if its not working the your server is incompatible, the above setting will tell you why.

[dnnyboy]

How can one tell if one's server is incompatible? What should I look for in the debug info? I'm struggling with the same issue.

[Simon_P]

@dnnyboy:

 

Both of the following will stop the file css mode:

 

 

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[dnnyboy]

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Seems I'm all out of luck then. Any other possible ways of bringing down the compiled css loadtime? As you can see it's quite significant compared to the rest of the css files:

 

[Simon_P]

Maybe you should ask your host why your php is running mod_php and a different user to yourself.

 

If your running 2.3.8 you can try the force filter...

 

add_filter( 'render_css_posix_', '__return_true' );

 

add to child functions.php

 

Nothing guaranteed.

 

Apologies to the OP for thread being taken over.

[blzalewski]

Thanks for your help Simon

no problem... seems like dnnyboy is having the same problem i am

i have access to SSH root... any ideas what I should install to get Pagelines working fine? Right now i'm running nginx, php-fpm, and apc... so i'm on nginx instead of apache and php-fpm instead of php_mod...

update: after fine tuning everything else... the css file is about 50% of my load time

[Simon_P]

Your css is still running in 'safe mode' cant tell without debug enabled.

[blzalewski]

okay.. should be enabled right now

[Simon_P]

Thats great but us peons will never see it as you have caches installed.

[blzalewski]

hhmmm.. not sure what to make of that but... maybe there's some other bootleg way of fixing this? is there a way to get pagelines to pre-compile the CSS? right now it seems like my website is compiling every time someone connects... it might be fast now but if I get even a little spike in traffic its gonna noticeably reduce my load times

thanks for your help so far Simon_P

[Simon_P]

ok what i meant was, there is no way fro us to see the pldebug url, as your site is cached. So all logged out users just see cached pages.

 

If you want us to try and help, turn off all the caches.

[lucasgarvin]

This is a helpful thread; I'm anxious to see the end result. Thanks for all the interaction here!

[blzalewski]

ok i turned off w3 total cache... do I need to turn off server level caches too? any ideas which ones in particular might be causing the problem?

 

maybe I make you an admin on my site? or maybe I can modify the following nginx.conf from this link to not cache the debug url (my nginx.conf is roughly similar):

 

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